tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post5773969287976875224..comments2023-10-19T13:55:22.556+01:00Comments on my fascinating life: Adoption: on earth as it is in heaven?Claudiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09352341442556433375noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-89664389929408417862011-01-29T21:21:19.804+00:002011-01-29T21:21:19.804+00:00Thank you, thank you, thank you! Lately, I've ...Thank you, thank you, thank you! Lately, I've been reading a lot on adoption, particularly international adoptions, and just read this post from sometime last year. As a Christian, I resent people believing they're saving the world by adopting or even that everyone should be "saving" babies. There's so much more I could say about this, but mostly, I just wanted to thank you.Traceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185346325212896497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-36669709573975964322010-07-11T23:09:53.119+01:002010-07-11T23:09:53.119+01:00I always tell my daughter that she was adopted jus...I always tell my daughter that she was adopted just like jesus was adopted by joseph...I think that's okay...I actually neverf thought about comparing adoption by God to adoption of mt daughter...to me He saved me...quite different...debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270266698939827035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-27927302299399272532010-07-11T14:49:59.509+01:002010-07-11T14:49:59.509+01:00I have been looking all over the internet for this...I have been looking all over the internet for this post and now I've found it! (Thanks to TongguMomma for linking) Thanks for saying this so well. Hope you don't mind if I share liberally.Haleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16425646410486288854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-12003405519559671252010-07-10T17:30:24.838+01:002010-07-10T17:30:24.838+01:00Yuck. Just, yuck. As an adoptee, it makes my blood...Yuck. Just, yuck. As an adoptee, it makes my blood boil when people use the way THEY interpret the Bible in a way that justifies adoption. <br /> <br />God has nothing to do with adoption. Period.Real Daughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16361127479878590761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-19542362417654564052010-07-07T21:08:36.244+01:002010-07-07T21:08:36.244+01:00Thanks, Claudia, for discussing this topic. It'...Thanks, Claudia, for discussing this topic. It's often such a touchy subject that can stir up a lot of emotion among both adoptees and adoptive parents. But it's something that must be considered, since it has such a strong influence on the practice of adoption.<br /><br />To quote a commenter named Sandy, who left a comment at the blog chinaadoptiontalk.blogspot.com, (hopefully she doesn't mind--her point was so appropriate):<br /><br />"If Christians wish to focus on adopting as a way to give back then they need to adopt the entire family - not just the child - no Christian should be purposely severing the biological link that God created...God told them to care for all humanity...not just the little ones..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-10021394478249550852010-07-07T01:33:40.756+01:002010-07-07T01:33:40.756+01:00Don't you think one of the most sinful things ...Don't you think one of the most sinful things is the exploitation of the needy by the adoption industry? Inflicting such lifelong trauma on the innocent is surely one of the most sinful acts that can be performed.Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17421069895155350144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-9809438204444188302010-05-13T04:58:18.078+01:002010-05-13T04:58:18.078+01:00I think your point that if you had not adopted you...I think your point that if you had not adopted your children they would have gone to next on the list, is very interesting. A perspective I have not thought about before!The Accidental Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00409271721074309249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-10111184735454387032010-05-09T07:43:46.115+01:002010-05-09T07:43:46.115+01:00Hey C - it's me again.
So I was looking back a...Hey C - it's me again.<br />So I was looking back at your packing post and trying to figure out what exactly a person packs when she may be in Addis indefinitely? Any thoughts? How many outfits? I think I have 17 packed. Friends are laughing. Is that too many? INDEFINITELY sounds long. And like clothes are required...<br />What about wipes and diapers? How many? What if you don't know exact size?<br />What about baby medicines? What about diaper rash ointment? Coudl you shoot me a little email with what was helpful to pack and what wasn't if you don't mind terribly?<br /><br />amanda<br />cox<br />77<br />@<br />hotmail.comMe. Us. She.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00222015524829943773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-7602558964983828202010-05-08T04:19:11.365+01:002010-05-08T04:19:11.365+01:00Great post, Claudia. I was raised in a deeply Cath...Great post, Claudia. I was raised in a deeply Catholic home but now attend the Unitarian church. Our adoption has deepened my faith--come on, if those boys aren't proof of God's existence I don't know what is!--but it has never been about saving children, the world, etc for us. It makes me sad when people focus on "saving" because I know those people are missing something--something wonderful that I feel lucky to be a part of. Anyway, great post. Amen, Sister!Heidihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05855145567035760634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-38923104730856496222010-05-08T02:24:06.470+01:002010-05-08T02:24:06.470+01:00bravo. thank you.bravo. thank you.Cloverland Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01118709149232877201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-79856136370681940862010-05-06T18:12:59.685+01:002010-05-06T18:12:59.685+01:00Beautifully written! These are important distinct...Beautifully written! These are important distinctions and I love the thoughtfulness involved. Bravo, Claudia!Colleen and JF Bertrandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17678580824901740199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-42258081398375500362010-05-06T14:58:20.021+01:002010-05-06T14:58:20.021+01:00Thank you C! It is good to have a thought out &quo...Thank you C! It is good to have a thought out "critique" to some of the ways of thinking Christians easily embrace. I appreciate your words and thoughts. Also I have to tell you I accidentally rejected your comment with your email address so I could add you to our family blog! So sorry - could you comment to give me your email address again? Thanks so much!Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06101086842001350040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-7329856200903795362010-05-05T07:06:44.290+01:002010-05-05T07:06:44.290+01:00I've read through your post a few times now an...I've read through your post a few times now and can't really think of anything that I could say that would add benefit. You said it perfectly...and beautifully...again.Lost in Spacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07027117135940864685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-81680921624470410282010-05-04T02:34:22.235+01:002010-05-04T02:34:22.235+01:00Wonderfully written! I really hate when people sa...Wonderfully written! I really hate when people say that we saved our children by adopting them. We didn't adopt because we wanted to save, we adopted because we wanted a family.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164289513143006410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-49826647595133749622010-05-04T02:06:34.352+01:002010-05-04T02:06:34.352+01:00Coming back to say....whenever J & I go back t...Coming back to say....whenever J & I go back to ET (probably in the next 1-2 years) I am *totally* looking for a ticket that has a long UK layover. And if you don't think I'm serious ask Bridget or La Cazadora. Because I am (serious, that is). And also because we would get along famously. And also because everyone in the US would be jealous. <br /><br />Love...the buckle (i.e. the hard uncomfortable part) of the bible belt.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18141504648674230696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-69967921554516498132010-05-04T01:17:20.877+01:002010-05-04T01:17:20.877+01:00I think you've got great insight into these is...I think you've got great insight into these issues, and you've explained it beautifully - excellent post. xxxLucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16104524922038629718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-72012979430393697512010-05-03T20:27:27.834+01:002010-05-03T20:27:27.834+01:00I agree with the commenter above. Although I am Ch...I agree with the commenter above. Although I am Christian, I don't really like to read overtly Christian adoption blogs if they self-promote. It makes no sense to me and frankly seems very anti-Christian. <br />I really don't think much about my beliefs and our exploration of adoption as intertwined. Anyone who knows me knows I struggled very hard with fertility treatments for years and they simply did not work. So it becomes time to look into other options.<br /><br />Thanks for writing this, and I really really hope it opens some eyes out there.<br /><br />FYI my word verification is herpe....ewwwwwwww.lastchanceivfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139576318784337837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-4529670534252031482010-05-03T18:20:45.547+01:002010-05-03T18:20:45.547+01:00We are Christians, but this adoption process has h...We are Christians, but this adoption process has honestly pushed me away from many fellow Christians who have also adopted. The over simplifying and over glorifying of adoption has turned me off. True, it is a beautiful thing. However, it comes from a great tragedy. Forgetting this does your child a great disservice (of course, to over emphasize it does them a disservice too).<br /><br />And quite honestly, the idea of me 'saving' a child makes my blood boil. You are exactly right that it leads to a savior complex. I can imagine that it would make adopted children feel like they 'owe' something to their adoptive parents, which they most definitely don't!<br /><br />Thank you for this post. It is nice to see someone else who takes a hard look at these hard issues. I was beginning to lose faith in my faith over how Christians approach adoption and orphans. <br /><br />bekaMore Dorrshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365599846288104152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-967098156918687282010-05-03T16:54:19.576+01:002010-05-03T16:54:19.576+01:00Thank you. I agree. I appreciate that someone fina...Thank you. I agree. I appreciate that someone finally wrote this blog post. It's something I think about and couldn't quite put into words. AMe. Us. She.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00222015524829943773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-52436237961362541352010-05-03T15:44:44.771+01:002010-05-03T15:44:44.771+01:00I really enjoyed reading this post C. I am not a ...I really enjoyed reading this post C. I am not a Christian. I am a Unitarian Universalist, so my spiritual views are obviously different. But, I completely agree with you about what adoption is and what it is not...and that all families are of equal worth, whether formed through the womb or the heart-strings and also the families who are unable to keep their children for whatever reason...all of equal worth and dignity. We are all on equal grounds. Planted here on this planet to grow and to do good, the best that we can. Adoptive families are not saving children...we are providing a family for children because we can and because we want to do so. So, I have to give you an "Amen Sista!" from one spiritual chick to another spiritual chick! :)Eastiopianshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080708384309438314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-48312773216361079532010-05-03T15:38:20.073+01:002010-05-03T15:38:20.073+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09496203933580303223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-66605317107807469442010-05-03T13:50:02.850+01:002010-05-03T13:50:02.850+01:00Oh C, if only there were a church full of you'...Oh C, if only there were a church full of you's somewhere. Could you come preach at my mother's church? <br /><br />Maybe then I wouldn't have to go off on people on facebook (and you wouldn't have to correct my overly simplistic explanations).Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18141504648674230696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-78778273007752371412010-05-03T13:28:46.094+01:002010-05-03T13:28:46.094+01:00I think I believe the same as you! Even though I s...I think I believe the same as you! Even though I scanned most of it - still procrastinating (see last post) but now down to 19 emails!Marcia (123 blog)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15581613927187600748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075858460867483977.post-57713408012835557402010-05-03T13:07:15.399+01:002010-05-03T13:07:15.399+01:00Claudia, I like your thinking. I appreciate your w...Claudia, I like your thinking. I appreciate your words. I am Christian, and in my faith, we actually do not reference Christ's atonement for our sins and our baptism (and subsequent hopefully frequent repentence to renew that baptism) as adoption at all, so once joining the Christian adoption crowd this languague was kind of new to me. <br /><br />In our faith we believe God the Father and Christ are actually not the same being. We believe the Father and Son are just that. And we believe God is the literal Father of our spirits. How's that for doctrine in a blog post?<br /><br />Anyway, I guess I am learning a lot about how different Christians view adoption and interperet certain scriptures in the Bible, and when I read on peoples' well-intentioned blog frustration that "not all Christians are adopting what the heck is wrong with them, don't they read the Bible?!" I am taken aback. And your points are exactly why.<br /><br />Orphan care and building families which are both stated as important, good things in the Bible, but I think do not exactly = adoption for every person. <br /><br />I also agree with your point about the savior issue. I refuse to call our adoption "saving" our baby. <br />But Christ did save me. I don't think they are the same thing at all.<br /><br />And now, do I win some kind of treat for the longest reponse ever?<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your faith and your insights, C.scooping it uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08801475653537826888noreply@blogger.com